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I just rewatched this and I realized something about why this game probably didn't work nearly as well... that being something leading entirely back to the first game. The key thing that made the first fnaf so great and that made it stand out at the time was the fact that you couldn't move. Recently, I was forced to watch Markipliers videos playing the first fnaf games for reasons that are not important, and one of the main things that stood out to me was one thing he said... I don't remember it exactly, and I don't really want to bother going back to the video for the exact wording, but he said that the game entirely flipped the idea of horror, or at least the horror that he was used to, since all you could do was wait for what felt like the inevitable, unless you were saved by the clock. This idea doesn't translate well into 3D... and I don't think it really could, at least not easily, and especially not in the way that security breach tried to handle it... Then again... I don't really think the problem with the security breach was its step away from what was set before... though I'm sure it probably didn't help for some...

I felt so bad for Markiplier during his playthrough of SB. He put up with so much crap to finish that game.

It’s a game for children and RUclipsrs, so the handholding is okay.

It is not the consciousness which affects the result, it is the process of the experiment itself. The method of measurement is messing with the outcome

This sucked

if oooonly someone that watched this video had the ability to mod the game and fix this shit... if ooooonly

The beauty of the original fnaf is that you couldn't run away. It made you sit there and watch them slowly grow closer to you as the soundscape kept you on high alert through unease. Making a free roam game where your main strategy is to run away was their first mistake in a long line of blunders. The only way I can see fixing this is to borrow the noise mechanic from fnaf 6 and make the animatronics investigate noise or light rather than just wandering with binocular vision. Or steal from amnesia the bunker and desperately be trying to keep the lights on so the animatronics are friendly or disabled outright when theyre on and set to free roam murder mode when the lights go out. That would bring back power management in a new and "fun" way. Hell, have freddy be your buddy when the lights are on but your biggest threat when the lights are off.

Feel like you repeat yourself too much, had a few times where I thought I'd accidentally went back. Sorry for not being more specific, the vid is longer than I want to spend getting examples.

UIM, the other animatronics dont even use the abilities that you get for beating them. And that's a shame because (iirc) monty did in a trailer, breaking a gate to seemingly reach you. And it could've been interesting. Imagine chica managing to stun either you or Freddy while Roxy can know where you are for a large portion(maybe even making hiding spots useless when facing her), and instead of searching, she's stalking and/or finding a way to reach/trap you, forcing you to find out how to stop her dead in her tracks...

I wish Security Breach had a Groundhog Day/Roguelike system to it. The clock progresses each night, time moves forward as it should, and certain areas and opportunities appear only in specific time windows. Maybe a whole week like this where certain places lock and unlock each day of the week. Culminating altogether to make a game where you have to take risks to make specific plays each weeknight to solve the mysteries and get the true ending.

Now that the Ruin DLC is out, I think it is safe to say that Security Breach was the way it is simply because Steel Wool did not know what they were doing. I’m still not a huge fan of Ruin, but it is clearly a better game with better mechanics, programming, and general fixes. They clearly know how to make games but I think they just were not prepared to make this type of game.

Now that i think about it. If i would change stuff in the game besides off course making the map smaller so the AI doesn't need to teleport. Make the game alot more scripted and the story better. There is some smaller stuff that i really wonder why they didn't do it. 1. The fazer blaster aswell as the camera should have limited ammunition/polaroid shots so every time you use them you want to make sure if you really want to use them. 2. Freddy should be overhauled. By that i mean the hiding mechanic should work on less animatronics. Especially not on roxy who can see through walls. Or in general he should only work on certain animatronics and his battery should not be rechargable but last a little longer. Other things i would have changed include. The intro: gregory being a child has snuck into the pizza plex for whatever reason and i would make it so vanessa eventually finds him while he tries to hide in freddy. Vanessa then drags him to the security office where she turns into vanny in a cutscene or something that shows how she is mind controlled or whatever. Gregory hides in a closet and the gameplay becomes more stationary. You would have to stay in the office until 6 sometimes leaving to gather resources like flashlight batteries or recharging a generator per hand. Using the camera system to plan a route which either includes none or only animatronics which you can avoid by hiding in freddy. the game would still have one night and there would always be a automatic save once you re enter the office with your gathered goods giving your expeditions more tension. The whole breaking the animatronics thing i would honestly scrap that completly. Same with the security bots. Otherwise you got your basic fnaf gameplay. Have some animatronics only be fended off by the blaster or camera so you might actually want to leave the office to outrun these animatronics once these resources are out. Just some ideas which might still conflict though. It is only the stuff i came up with summarized. Thanks for reading :)

14:50 subjective

Would be nice if the game had fewer staff, and better AI for the primary animatronics, it would be awesome if they acted somewhat like the xenomorph from alien isolation, just having them naturally explore with out teleporting with subtle hints from a game master system that gets them to look around in the same general zone as the player, maybe not all at once but like if your in hanging around an area like Roxy race way and one's around the game master might tip off Roxy to make her way their to explore the area. It would have been really cool if they did more then just patrol one area for a whole time slot, if time worked normally they could go recharge, and then head back out, it would also be cool if they were more interactive, like in the base game after you repair freddy you go threw Roxxies room in freddy and she talks to freddy telling him to get out of her room normally. But like any other time they have zero reaction to freddy or eachother, it would be so cool if they talked and I interacted with each other as they came across each other or freddy. The game could have be way cooler and more fun if the main animatronics had advanced AI and naturally moved around instead of teleporting and having preprogrammed patrol behaviors.

repetition is the death of fear. You know the very worst thing the first enemy in a horror game can do is? Kill you. Because it drops the stakes to zero. I want to say it was a Second Wind video I saw recently that went over this, but it could have been someone else

They did reduce the stun time in the February Patch

Honestly, as some one who works with kids, Gregory purposefully avoiding Vanessa for no reason other than "bad vibes" is pretty accurate of actual children. I asked a child if he wanted to color or play with blocks and his response was to throw himself on the floor screaming "I DON"T LIKE YOU". This was the first time I'd met him, and the other staff assured me he's just like that with some of them. That child probably didn't really dislike me, he was just angry he was being dropped off at a daycare and felt confused, so he lashed out an unfamiliar face in the only way he knew how. Kids aren't stupid by any means, they just might not have the best ability to control and understand "big emotions" like fear, anxiety, anger, loneliness, and frustration. Sometimes that leads to them making judgements or decisions that aren't the most sensical, because they're formed based around feelings. So Gregory not trusting Vanessa, even though she's in a position to help him makes sense, at least to me. He's avoiding an unknown adult in a position of authority who could catch him and get him in trouble. Sorry if this doesn't make sense, I'm on the spectrum and describing emotions can be kinda hard for me.

for the story section, unironically, the Frights books have been a fucking bane for the series's story telling. Like unironically, while yes it is funny to read about Omegaverse springtrap or rabbit shrimp that can take over people, the fact those books are NECCESARY to get a full picture rather than feeling more like red harings, or possible lore points that are simply to pique interest or throw lore points to theorize whats next in the story, was unironically a stupid idea. (and yeah i know the whole Mat predicted the mimic before SB but thats lore theorizing and honestly i feel unless your doing an analysis on the story specifically, its best to never touch THAT can of shrodinger worms and focus exclusively on gameplay) Edit: okay VERY unpopular opinion, i actually don't hate the teleporting, but it needs to be part of a bigger system. like, i dunno, maybe if they actually kept the alien isolation elements that were scrapped, it would have been a punishment for being sloppy and summon an animatronic that was in a completly different part of the mall. (i.e. Monty is in Atrium, but im sloppy in the theatre, the game rolls which tronic gets summoned and in this case monty, and he teleports near me.) But i'd also make it where it is explicitly behind you rather than randomly around you. That way a chase begins (also also, i'd make a staff bot catching you add a significant chunk of points onto the Vanny meter) Edit2: and the thing about Mimic/Burntrap, i think the best way they could have at least tried to indicate, while they are similar in certain aspects, they are completly different would have been to do what they did with Lucina in Awakening. She claimed she was the legendery warrior king (and melee god) Marth, and besides the voice and long hair, it's something she wishes to keep up until her mask is shattered revealing she is very much not a king from myth and legend. They could have done something similar in the burntrap fight. the opening cutscene would have instilled in everyone a massive groaning of 'god damn it hes back', but the winnign cutscene could have shown his mask on fire slowly burning off revealing something very different underneath putting a sence of 'huh? thats not afton's corpse'

Wow goopy actually fucken died 😮

saddest part about Vanny is the fact that i totally forget she exists most of the time. i literally didnt remember her until this video. you could remove her from the game/story and have to rewrite so little that it wouldnt even matter also adding to the uselessness of chicas voicebox: iirc, the doors unlocked with chicas voice can also be slashed through with monty's claws

I feel like if they just said they filled in the old pizzeria with dirt or concrete before they built the mall then that would've beed 10x more creepy. I've heard stories of that happening with subterranean building and it would have genuinely been creepy.

Ok so as a security breach fan whilst also remaining a love for the OG games I must say that this game has a few questionable things in it I would like to say who could blame Steel Wool? This is the first truly free roam FNaF games (not including FNaF world) so shouldn't we just cut them some slack

Thoughts on Poppy Playtime

I wonder if one of the reasons that Steel Wool thought all the animatronic teleportation would be okay is because there is a history of it in the series. Bonnie's apparent teleportation in FNaF 1 has been a meme since the beginning, Nightmare Fredbear will teleport inside your room in FNaF 4, etc. But these previous instances all have front-facing gameplay and story elements that call the diegesis of that teleportation into question, like the staticky and unreliable camera system of 1 and the dream setup of 4. The problem is, SB has no such mechanic (other than the Greg-bot thing, but that's not made narratively obvious since Vanny's effect is the only thing that really makes you doubt your own eyes), so the teleportation sticks out like a sore thumb.

Yo are you making a video on ruin too?????

Next FNAF villain - Dead-trap Next next FNAF villain - Trap-trap

My headcanon is that FNAF SB is not a canon game, it is just "how a FNAF game would be if it was free roaming and rushed made"

1:00:38 There has never been any confirmation of any of the animatronics in Sister Location besides Circus Baby being possessed.

My roommates thought it was dumb that i got a refund on security breach. I simple didn't like the plot, the game wasn't finished, and it wasn't scary (minus mapbot)

Omg can't believe I missed this >:( I had my bell on and everything. Great video!!!

i was so confused with the intro setup the first time i heard it, like okay gregory you're paranoid but you're also a LOST CHILD in a pizza place after hours, why would you avoid the security guard even if you got "bad vibes" from her?

that sinking feeling when you realise they thought this would be like Alien: Isolation

It's like an analysis for those who haven't faced it when it released (bugs compilations)

I'm surprised you didn't bring up the inconsistencies in the Security Breach trailers and what we get in game. There's a lot of details in the trailer that seem to either have been scrapped or replaced altogether.

Whats amazing is Pac Man, a game with rudimentary designs, has a better AI system than Security Breach. The four ghosts each having a personality to their AI. The red one being a Chaser, only wanting to outright try to chase pacman from any direction, simply aiming for pacmans location. Pinky trying to get in front of pacman and trying to aim for a point in front of pacman to intercept. The blue one being sneaky to try sidewinding pacman. And the orange one just... being. This philosophy could've worked perfectly for the animatronics. Monty being a chaser because he has no real worry in faz blasters and camera, so he can try to charge straight for you. Chica could've been the interceptor to try to get in front of you rather than outright chase you, and Roxy trying to sidewind you. Instead, they all seem to have the orange ghost mentality of simply going until they spot you then just going back to their wander phase. I hope a good modding community comes around to this game to upgrade it.

I find that 3 had too little Egad interaction if you turned off hints. With 1 you had regular visits after each area and 2 had the constant calls but 3 weirdly always felt distant, for me I'd rather want too much Egad than too little

Thank you all knowing Loving all mighty God help me and these people to better understand you amen

I love how a literal Roblox horror game managed to do this so much better, both doors and rainbow friends are open world horror games that basically checked all the boxes that fnaf sb didn’t

Literally who wouldn't date him, he's perfect

I think this particular blunder is hilarious, I only feel bad for those who were looking forward to more. Help Wanted didn't look bad, so if this dev team gives it another shot, they learn from this game. Though putting in a single save button end game instead of just disabling that no save feature sure is an unorthodox response to feedback.

19:34 children on your country can decide their gender and you ask this

Bro cooked with this one

there is a cut audio file that instead has greg saying "she is trying to kill me" and not just "she is trying to get me."

You at least acknowledge that this game was a passion project right?

underrated

Since you're still reading/checking comments here I figured I should share a tidbit about the game's development: According to the lead developer for the Nintendo Switch port, Security Breach's programming is 95% done in Unreal's equivalent to blocks. It's a way of programming that's meant for use in prototyping, and is not easily tweaked. I really wish there'd be someone out there to take the time and document the knowledge we have about SB's development and put it out there succinctly. The amount of false information about why the game turned out the way it did online is insane. To this day I still see baseless claims about Sony rushing the game out, or that it was because of fans rushing them. The only things that can really be substantiated is that Scott was responsible for the terrible story, and Steel Wool was at fault for everything else. Yet, somehow, the fans are unable to accept that and look for a scapegoat. The parasocial relationships this fandom has formed with both Cawthon and SWS are the reason why this series will never see improvement.

Gregory hiding from vanessa was a good idea because he wouldn't have to worry about Susan and Frank

Scott Cawthon is so real

Hearing the positive talk about the fan game initiative from a year ago to 2024 as of writing and most of them haven't released due to the drama with the fangame creators There's still good fangames being made, but I'm sad Scott's official attempt to foster that went so poorly

Custom night, we play as William afton. The animatronics refused to die, and they kept him alive as well. And ig he had some computer or chip with his essence. But it's still confusing